And that’s what happens in the Empire: that you don’t want to encourage the old military virtues, the old ambitions, the old aggressiveness. The famous speech about that is when Julius Caesar says, “Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look,” to Antony. And says, “Antonius, let me have men about me that are fat.” He wants people who indulge their bodies, who aren’t, you know, like Cassius. They’re lean and hungry; they’re ambitious; they’re a threat to him. And you really see articulated there the imperial policy – again, connected to this idea of bread and circuses – you want people who now have no ambition, because they have no goal for their ambition, to find enjoyment and maybe some other way of becoming famous, as Antony and Cleopatra do. - conversationswithbillkristol.org